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		<title>By: Curbing your spending &#171; elle &#38; ish &#8211; shopping, decor, fashion, makeup and figuring out how to pay for it all</title>
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		<title>By: Canadian Personal Finance Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Random Thoughts: October Begins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Personal Finance Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Random Thoughts: October Begins</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Vaz-Oxlade writes about a topic near and dear to my heart Lifestyle Inflation where she talks about folks who&#8217;s lifestyles continue to expand to inhale their income (if [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Osiris Men&#8217;s Tranzor Lifestyle Shoe Skateboard Shoes on SALE!</title>
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		<title>By: 007 Lifestyle &#8211; Living Like James Bond. &#124; Explore World Wonders</title>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam/Girl Makes Cents.... Me too! :(  It&#039;s been 3 years and I am still &#039;living like a student&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam/Girl Makes Cents&#8230;. Me too! <img src='http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   It&#8217;s been 3 years and I am still &#8216;living like a student&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/915/comment-page-1#comment-17488</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 04:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Luckily,&quot; many of us have been spared this quandary at the moment. Thanks to the current state of things, there are no jobs in my field and I&#039;m making even less than what I did as a student. It&#039;s depressing because I worked my behind off to get through six years of schooling without loans or credit, and the only thing that carried me was the thought of modest luxuries such as my own apartment, some Ikea furniture, and maybe the occasional trip to the movie theatre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Luckily,&#8221; many of us have been spared this quandary at the moment. Thanks to the current state of things, there are no jobs in my field and I&#8217;m making even less than what I did as a student. It&#8217;s depressing because I worked my behind off to get through six years of schooling without loans or credit, and the only thing that carried me was the thought of modest luxuries such as my own apartment, some Ikea furniture, and maybe the occasional trip to the movie theatre.</p>
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		<title>By: Girl Makes Cents</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 04:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this post! In high school I was a bit of a saver but also went out for lunch everyday!!!! EVERYDAY, oh how much money I &quot;wasted.&quot; I had a part-time job and my money was expendable. If I liked something, I would buy it. I was still fairly cautious, I spent my money on clothes and lunches. 

I then went to University and my lifestyle depreciated. I learned to live like a student. Going out or buying a lunch was a luxury! I pretty much became a vegetarian (not by choice) because meat was just too expensive! I asked for things like toilet paper and groceries for Christmas! 

Now that I have graduated I am still somewhat in that student mindset. I am working (supply teaching part-time) and so I do have some extra money again. I have bought a few toys and a few new items of clothing but nothing extravagent. My main goal is to pay off my OSAP. Once that is done I already have goals for the extra money. 

I am slowly inflating my lifestyle, but logically and carefully. I can admit though that I am envious of those friends who travel, and have nice cars and houses. Not so envious of their debts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this post! In high school I was a bit of a saver but also went out for lunch everyday!!!! EVERYDAY, oh how much money I &#8220;wasted.&#8221; I had a part-time job and my money was expendable. If I liked something, I would buy it. I was still fairly cautious, I spent my money on clothes and lunches. </p>
<p>I then went to University and my lifestyle depreciated. I learned to live like a student. Going out or buying a lunch was a luxury! I pretty much became a vegetarian (not by choice) because meat was just too expensive! I asked for things like toilet paper and groceries for Christmas! </p>
<p>Now that I have graduated I am still somewhat in that student mindset. I am working (supply teaching part-time) and so I do have some extra money again. I have bought a few toys and a few new items of clothing but nothing extravagent. My main goal is to pay off my OSAP. Once that is done I already have goals for the extra money. </p>
<p>I am slowly inflating my lifestyle, but logically and carefully. I can admit though that I am envious of those friends who travel, and have nice cars and houses. Not so envious of their debts.</p>
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		<title>By: Rita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up poor also.  My parents had lived through the depression and the only credit my Dad used for many years was was for gas and an account at the local Co-op store.   Other than clothing we rarely had anything that wasn&#039;t second hand, but we owned our own house mortgage free.

 When I got my first job I enjoyed buying clothes and the things I&#039;d always wanted.  I guess it was a reaction to rarely having new things growing up.  However, I also started an RRSP, was never overdrawn and loathed being in debt when I had to buy a car.  So some of my parents attitudes toward money did take.

I do admit that I spend too freely. I&#039;m trying hard now to learn to delay gratification.  When I went from full-time to part-time (my decision) it was very difficult to adjust to the decrease in income. No more vacations abroad every other year was the hardest part.  (Some people spend their money on vehicles, I would rather travel and drive a second hand car for 15 years).

My big regret is not saving a bit more, because if I had I&#039;d probably be able to retire now.  On the other hand I have only one loan, for a car to replace my ancient one.  When I work extra hours I&#039;m making myself put the money into savings or making an extra loan payment.  I&#039;ll never be as frugal as my parents were but I&#039;m learning to discern the difference between needs and wants better.  Unfortunately the media and advertising are always trying to convince us that our wants are needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up poor also.  My parents had lived through the depression and the only credit my Dad used for many years was was for gas and an account at the local Co-op store.   Other than clothing we rarely had anything that wasn&#8217;t second hand, but we owned our own house mortgage free.</p>
<p> When I got my first job I enjoyed buying clothes and the things I&#8217;d always wanted.  I guess it was a reaction to rarely having new things growing up.  However, I also started an RRSP, was never overdrawn and loathed being in debt when I had to buy a car.  So some of my parents attitudes toward money did take.</p>
<p>I do admit that I spend too freely. I&#8217;m trying hard now to learn to delay gratification.  When I went from full-time to part-time (my decision) it was very difficult to adjust to the decrease in income. No more vacations abroad every other year was the hardest part.  (Some people spend their money on vehicles, I would rather travel and drive a second hand car for 15 years).</p>
<p>My big regret is not saving a bit more, because if I had I&#8217;d probably be able to retire now.  On the other hand I have only one loan, for a car to replace my ancient one.  When I work extra hours I&#8217;m making myself put the money into savings or making an extra loan payment.  I&#8217;ll never be as frugal as my parents were but I&#8217;m learning to discern the difference between needs and wants better.  Unfortunately the media and advertising are always trying to convince us that our wants are needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Geoff&#039;s comments.
Loan shark were present for the previous generations...
Running a tab at the corner bar...
Pay advances via the workplace...
Asking for paying rent the following month...
There were ways to borrow, they were different.

It&#039;s like saying &quot;the new undergraduates get younger every year&quot;.  I guess we just all get older every year.

I am not saying that times remain the same but stereotypes might.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Geoff&#8217;s comments.<br />
Loan shark were present for the previous generations&#8230;<br />
Running a tab at the corner bar&#8230;<br />
Pay advances via the workplace&#8230;<br />
Asking for paying rent the following month&#8230;<br />
There were ways to borrow, they were different.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like saying &#8220;the new undergraduates get younger every year&#8221;.  I guess we just all get older every year.</p>
<p>I am not saying that times remain the same but stereotypes might.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know as a I read these postings, I notice there&#039;s a real romanticizing of the past trend here in many posterse -- grandparents of yesteryear did everything in cash, kids today don&#039;t know the value of the dollar, not like I did when I was younger, etc.

It&#039;s a dangerous thing to start recollecting the past as being better than perhaps it was. Yes, some grandparents I&#039;m sure were frugal savers but many also would have declared bankruptcy or had poor retirements. Same as with &#039;kids today&#039; - I&#039;m fairly certain that a 10 year old today is the same as a 10 year old in 1975 in terms of not really understanding the value of money. In short, it seems a generational rite of passing to dismiss the next generation as not being as worthwhile, though the jury is still out (on both generations).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know as a I read these postings, I notice there&#8217;s a real romanticizing of the past trend here in many posterse &#8212; grandparents of yesteryear did everything in cash, kids today don&#8217;t know the value of the dollar, not like I did when I was younger, etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a dangerous thing to start recollecting the past as being better than perhaps it was. Yes, some grandparents I&#8217;m sure were frugal savers but many also would have declared bankruptcy or had poor retirements. Same as with &#8216;kids today&#8217; &#8211; I&#8217;m fairly certain that a 10 year old today is the same as a 10 year old in 1975 in terms of not really understanding the value of money. In short, it seems a generational rite of passing to dismiss the next generation as not being as worthwhile, though the jury is still out (on both generations).</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!!

When I was in college for three years I remember being excited if I had a TOONIE!! Yes a toonie! Thankfully I never went hungry or without shelter but from being so strapped for so long once I graduated and landed a full-time job I did spend more than I should of. My clunker that barely got to me to college and back everyday and promptly died within a month of graduating was replaced with a brand new car at $18K. Even though I managed to pay that car off in a year and half due to a real estate investment I know that it was unwise to get something brand new and I should of looked at a good used car with more reasonable pymts. 
Now that I am have been done college for more than four years I still have the same car, a house that is half empty and will remain that way until we have saved enough for furinture and a wedding and honeymoon coming up in 8 months that we have the money set aside for. To me my life and my financial situation is darn good. We have enough cash set aside for 8 months of rainy days and no consumer debt besides a st.loan that I am for very close to having paid off, BUT every now and again I feel we should have more. Most of our friends all have brand new cars whereas ours are a 2001 and 2006. They go on yearly vacations, houses on a acreage, travel trailers, snowmobiles and ride a lawn mowers! Haha. I don&#039;t know how they do it. I know the one couple is very lucky to be mortgage free but I catch myself comparing &quot;us&quot; to &quot;them&quot; all the time and I try my best to remind myself that we are living slightly below our means and hope to retire early and thats whats important to us not the toys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!!</p>
<p>When I was in college for three years I remember being excited if I had a TOONIE!! Yes a toonie! Thankfully I never went hungry or without shelter but from being so strapped for so long once I graduated and landed a full-time job I did spend more than I should of. My clunker that barely got to me to college and back everyday and promptly died within a month of graduating was replaced with a brand new car at $18K. Even though I managed to pay that car off in a year and half due to a real estate investment I know that it was unwise to get something brand new and I should of looked at a good used car with more reasonable pymts.<br />
Now that I am have been done college for more than four years I still have the same car, a house that is half empty and will remain that way until we have saved enough for furinture and a wedding and honeymoon coming up in 8 months that we have the money set aside for. To me my life and my financial situation is darn good. We have enough cash set aside for 8 months of rainy days and no consumer debt besides a st.loan that I am for very close to having paid off, BUT every now and again I feel we should have more. Most of our friends all have brand new cars whereas ours are a 2001 and 2006. They go on yearly vacations, houses on a acreage, travel trailers, snowmobiles and ride a lawn mowers! Haha. I don&#8217;t know how they do it. I know the one couple is very lucky to be mortgage free but I catch myself comparing &#8220;us&#8221; to &#8220;them&#8221; all the time and I try my best to remind myself that we are living slightly below our means and hope to retire early and thats whats important to us not the toys.</p>
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		<title>By: Frugalistas.blogspot.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*pol says:
September 30, 2009 at 2:47 pm

We feel ill when we use credit also.  We&#039;ve only ever had to use a LOC once for house renovations, but we paid it off in less than half a year.  Had we been in Canada, we would have paid it off right away but we couldn&#039;t do anything with our finances in Canada easily while we were in the UK.</description>
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September 30, 2009 at 2:47 pm</p>
<p>We feel ill when we use credit also.  We&#8217;ve only ever had to use a LOC once for house renovations, but we paid it off in less than half a year.  Had we been in Canada, we would have paid it off right away but we couldn&#8217;t do anything with our finances in Canada easily while we were in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: *pol</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of interesting points both in the post and the responses. I can honestly say I have fallen prey to life inflation and consumer envy! But thankfully my tightwad (sorry, I mean &quot;sensible&quot;) nature always has kept me from getting carried away--I actually feel ILL when I use credit. 
I do not live as frgally as I did in College, but that&#039;s a good thing because it was a very uncomortable time of deprivation just to be fed! 
It is sometimes very, very hard for me to see all the pretty cars and gadgets and homes that I am not willing to shell out the money for. And that&#039;s just it, I am not willing to make those pretty, $hiny things my life-priority! I have to remind myself that my life goal is to raise my children to be responsible, contributing members of society, not to have the biggest and best at any cost.
Of course, It is still sometimes very hard... I would very much LIKE to own a brand new, European Import car and send my children to the best private school and have a home with all the latest and greatest in it and a hot tub and acreage and farm..... but not today, my planned spending account isn&#039;t big enough (wink-wink.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of interesting points both in the post and the responses. I can honestly say I have fallen prey to life inflation and consumer envy! But thankfully my tightwad (sorry, I mean &#8220;sensible&#8221;) nature always has kept me from getting carried away&#8211;I actually feel ILL when I use credit.<br />
I do not live as frgally as I did in College, but that&#8217;s a good thing because it was a very uncomortable time of deprivation just to be fed!<br />
It is sometimes very, very hard for me to see all the pretty cars and gadgets and homes that I am not willing to shell out the money for. And that&#8217;s just it, I am not willing to make those pretty, $hiny things my life-priority! I have to remind myself that my life goal is to raise my children to be responsible, contributing members of society, not to have the biggest and best at any cost.<br />
Of course, It is still sometimes very hard&#8230; I would very much LIKE to own a brand new, European Import car and send my children to the best private school and have a home with all the latest and greatest in it and a hot tub and acreage and farm&#8230;.. but not today, my planned spending account isn&#8217;t big enough (wink-wink.)</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As so many before me, I too believe lifestyle inflation happens.  I think though it stems from the &quot;sheltered&quot; feeling you get while you are at school.  For 4 years your life revolves around school, your friends and what assignment is due.  It&#039;s like you are cut off from the world, so when you get your first paying job you&#039;re still programmed to not pay attention to what the dollars actually need to do for you. 

I&#039;m glad that I had to work during school to keep up with my life - rent, telephone, internet, food, a little to have a life with.  I worked my butt off during my 5 years at post secondary.  I&#039;m now working full-time and finishing that degree part-time.  (Went to uni and college, have a diploma and want to finish that degree).  it was quite the balancing act during school to keep up with all of my costs, and to know I had to return home each summer and back to that summer job I lucked out getting.  I knew what I had to put away to keep myself going for 9 months, what I would need when I went back to school (approx.) and how much my rent costs would be with the telephone bills and internet.  

I know too many others who got into trouble because they weren&#039;t paying attention and who got into more trouble when they got their first real jobs because of it.  

I also agree with Brenda that the children of today - and for the most part all of us, need to be taught about money early, both in school and by our parents.  Everything is rosy when you are little - adulthood looks easy, is often glamourized and because the wish of every child.  Finances need to become part of the cirriculum across the board, taught as a unit in every grade and become a mandatory course in high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As so many before me, I too believe lifestyle inflation happens.  I think though it stems from the &#8220;sheltered&#8221; feeling you get while you are at school.  For 4 years your life revolves around school, your friends and what assignment is due.  It&#8217;s like you are cut off from the world, so when you get your first paying job you&#8217;re still programmed to not pay attention to what the dollars actually need to do for you. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that I had to work during school to keep up with my life &#8211; rent, telephone, internet, food, a little to have a life with.  I worked my butt off during my 5 years at post secondary.  I&#8217;m now working full-time and finishing that degree part-time.  (Went to uni and college, have a diploma and want to finish that degree).  it was quite the balancing act during school to keep up with all of my costs, and to know I had to return home each summer and back to that summer job I lucked out getting.  I knew what I had to put away to keep myself going for 9 months, what I would need when I went back to school (approx.) and how much my rent costs would be with the telephone bills and internet.  </p>
<p>I know too many others who got into trouble because they weren&#8217;t paying attention and who got into more trouble when they got their first real jobs because of it.  </p>
<p>I also agree with Brenda that the children of today &#8211; and for the most part all of us, need to be taught about money early, both in school and by our parents.  Everything is rosy when you are little &#8211; adulthood looks easy, is often glamourized and because the wish of every child.  Finances need to become part of the cirriculum across the board, taught as a unit in every grade and become a mandatory course in high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Colin - I&#039;m 43 so I also remember getting my first chequing account, and learning how to balance your chequebook - you always had to have money left!! I don&#039;t think I know of too many people who keep track of that these days.

Note: Just to show what kids think about money, I was in our public school today volunteering to count the pizza money. I had the money on the table in piles, and two 5th grade students saw me and asked what I was doing. They saw the money and said, &quot;Wow! How much is there?&quot; I told them around $750. Their response? &quot;Oh my - I&#039;d be rich - I would buy a house with that!!!&quot;  

So, that just goes to show that for 10/11 year olds, they have no concept as to what things cost - $750 won&#039;t get you far these days. Just wish their parents would explain it to them before too much longer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Colin &#8211; I&#8217;m 43 so I also remember getting my first chequing account, and learning how to balance your chequebook &#8211; you always had to have money left!! I don&#8217;t think I know of too many people who keep track of that these days.</p>
<p>Note: Just to show what kids think about money, I was in our public school today volunteering to count the pizza money. I had the money on the table in piles, and two 5th grade students saw me and asked what I was doing. They saw the money and said, &#8220;Wow! How much is there?&#8221; I told them around $750. Their response? &#8220;Oh my &#8211; I&#8217;d be rich &#8211; I would buy a house with that!!!&#8221;  </p>
<p>So, that just goes to show that for 10/11 year olds, they have no concept as to what things cost &#8211; $750 won&#8217;t get you far these days. Just wish their parents would explain it to them before too much longer!</p>
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