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		<title>By: Ajana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just fyi: There is a new study about money and how the brain views it - the money illusion. 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/why-spending-money-is-like-a-drug-1652597.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just fyi: There is a new study about money and how the brain views it &#8211; the money illusion.<br />
<a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/why-spending-money-is-like-a-drug-1652597.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/why-spending-money-is-like-a-drug-1652597.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ajana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; “Take care of the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves.” If you even remember what a “pound” is. &quot;

The pound is still around, as are the pennies. It was the shillings that went. Although, it must be said the pound isn&#039;t worth a pound anymore. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; “Take care of the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves.” If you even remember what a “pound” is. &#8221;</p>
<p>The pound is still around, as are the pennies. It was the shillings that went. Although, it must be said the pound isn&#8217;t worth a pound anymore. <img src='http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all the suggestions.....check
worth everybit of the &#039;effort&#039;

thanks Gail. 
i&#039;m loving the show and this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all the suggestions&#8230;..check<br />
worth everybit of the &#8216;effort&#8217;</p>
<p>thanks Gail.<br />
i&#8217;m loving the show and this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gail ..... from another very money-savvy Gail in the GTA!

Thank you for a wonderful show - I watch regularly with my daughter and she&#039;s getting wise to all this money stuff as well.   She wanted to know tonight if we were going to watch the &quot;stupid people on the money program&quot;.   LOL - it&#039;s working and she&#039;s only 9!   

I love this Blog entry and must tell you that I&#039;m doing everything humanly possible to pay down our mortgage before it needs to be renewed in 29 months.  I have a Variable 5 year Mortgage Rate-Capper with RBC ..... the rate is capped at 5.25% and with the recent drops in interest rates I am currently paying 1.75%.   I have additional payments on each and every bi-weekly debit (and have been doing this for the last 5 years) and I&#039;ll have my 20 year mortgage paid off in less than 10 years!   The only thing I need to do very soon is see if it is viable to take a lump sum from our savings to get the principal down quicker.  I know in the long run it&#039;ll be better and we&#039;ll be saving so much more interest, but I like the &quot;emergency/savings&quot; balance to be healthy ..... thinking carefully about that one.  

Thanks for a wonderful program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gail &#8230;.. from another very money-savvy Gail in the GTA!</p>
<p>Thank you for a wonderful show &#8211; I watch regularly with my daughter and she&#8217;s getting wise to all this money stuff as well.   She wanted to know tonight if we were going to watch the &#8220;stupid people on the money program&#8221;.   LOL &#8211; it&#8217;s working and she&#8217;s only 9!   </p>
<p>I love this Blog entry and must tell you that I&#8217;m doing everything humanly possible to pay down our mortgage before it needs to be renewed in 29 months.  I have a Variable 5 year Mortgage Rate-Capper with RBC &#8230;.. the rate is capped at 5.25% and with the recent drops in interest rates I am currently paying 1.75%.   I have additional payments on each and every bi-weekly debit (and have been doing this for the last 5 years) and I&#8217;ll have my 20 year mortgage paid off in less than 10 years!   The only thing I need to do very soon is see if it is viable to take a lump sum from our savings to get the principal down quicker.  I know in the long run it&#8217;ll be better and we&#8217;ll be saving so much more interest, but I like the &#8220;emergency/savings&#8221; balance to be healthy &#8230;.. thinking carefully about that one.  </p>
<p>Thanks for a wonderful program.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So smart, Doreen!  Just wondering, (being nosy actually)..did you take that car payment$ and insurance pmt$..the $2000 and apply it to somewhere else like the mortgage debt or did you eliminate the 2nd car out of need=way too tight budget?? so there really is no $2000 extra similar to what Suzanne pointed out at the top of these comments?

I find for us, when we cut stuff out of our budget, it&#039;s because of need. If we could &quot;afford-with ease&quot; the item being cut we wouldn&#039;t cut them out &amp; we&#039;d keep them &amp; enjoy them. We cut when it&#039;s necessary not just &#039;cuz we want to move that money to our savings account. ~sigh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So smart, Doreen!  Just wondering, (being nosy actually)..did you take that car payment$ and insurance pmt$..the $2000 and apply it to somewhere else like the mortgage debt or did you eliminate the 2nd car out of need=way too tight budget?? so there really is no $2000 extra similar to what Suzanne pointed out at the top of these comments?</p>
<p>I find for us, when we cut stuff out of our budget, it&#8217;s because of need. If we could &#8220;afford-with ease&#8221; the item being cut we wouldn&#8217;t cut them out &amp; we&#8217;d keep them &amp; enjoy them. We cut when it&#8217;s necessary not just &#8216;cuz we want to move that money to our savings account. ~sigh</p>
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		<title>By: Doreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We gave up our 2nd car and I switched to public transit. By doing so we immediately saved $2000 (insurance, upkeep, gas), I got more exercise (walking from the subway to work and back), read on the average a book every week and a half (read 26 books from Sept to June my first year using public transportation), have made 2 bus buddies and polute less.

We also save $225 per month in our high interest savings account. When the total hits about $1000 I temporarily park the funds against our line of credit (which charges us more interest then we make on the high interest account) saving interest charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We gave up our 2nd car and I switched to public transit. By doing so we immediately saved $2000 (insurance, upkeep, gas), I got more exercise (walking from the subway to work and back), read on the average a book every week and a half (read 26 books from Sept to June my first year using public transportation), have made 2 bus buddies and polute less.</p>
<p>We also save $225 per month in our high interest savings account. When the total hits about $1000 I temporarily park the funds against our line of credit (which charges us more interest then we make on the high interest account) saving interest charges.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin -- check out primus dot ca and their talkbroadband functionality if you have high speed internet. I don&#039;t work for them but have had this service for several years. The savings are significant and the phone features are awesome. Keep in mind it&#039;s not as stable as a traditional phone line but I&#039;ve found it to be 99% as good at 30% of the price. One selling point with your wife could be that you keep the same number + voicemails that get left at home get copied into a .wav file and emailed to her at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin &#8212; check out primus dot ca and their talkbroadband functionality if you have high speed internet. I don&#8217;t work for them but have had this service for several years. The savings are significant and the phone features are awesome. Keep in mind it&#8217;s not as stable as a traditional phone line but I&#8217;ve found it to be 99% as good at 30% of the price. One selling point with your wife could be that you keep the same number + voicemails that get left at home get copied into a .wav file and emailed to her at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, I very often meet people who are overspending on &quot;fixed&quot; expenses like communications. Kelly and Gerry had to bundle to save a bundle. Others have had to seriously cut back to get expenses in line. One couple I told to sell their condo did... while another couple who had never made a mortgage payment from their cash flow (they all came off their line of credit) decided to keep their home and come up with more money. As for heat, water, electricity, I worked with a family that had to find $1,000 a month for long-term savings, and the whole family (kids included) chipped in to find the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I very often meet people who are overspending on &#8220;fixed&#8221; expenses like communications. Kelly and Gerry had to bundle to save a bundle. Others have had to seriously cut back to get expenses in line. One couple I told to sell their condo did&#8230; while another couple who had never made a mortgage payment from their cash flow (they all came off their line of credit) decided to keep their home and come up with more money. As for heat, water, electricity, I worked with a family that had to find $1,000 a month for long-term savings, and the whole family (kids included) chipped in to find the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent Post Gail.  In the vein of reviewing household expenses I have been trying to convince my dear wife that we should go out and buy a new answering machine and get rid of the call answer service from our phone company that keeps charging us almost $10/month for the service, and increasing every year.

As an aside, I&#039;ve noticed on the show that you tend to highlight shopping trips.  Have you ever run into a couple where the problem hasn&#039;t been shopping but it was because their household bills were out of control (i.e. heat, water, electricity, phone, net, cable, long distance, Cellular)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent Post Gail.  In the vein of reviewing household expenses I have been trying to convince my dear wife that we should go out and buy a new answering machine and get rid of the call answer service from our phone company that keeps charging us almost $10/month for the service, and increasing every year.</p>
<p>As an aside, I&#8217;ve noticed on the show that you tend to highlight shopping trips.  Have you ever run into a couple where the problem hasn&#8217;t been shopping but it was because their household bills were out of control (i.e. heat, water, electricity, phone, net, cable, long distance, Cellular)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pol*:  I am always suspicious of the phone company calling to offer me a cheaper rate.  In my case they are also my ISP.   I&#039;ve been with them for many years, so many that I still have uncapped usage on my account.  They frequently call and suggest that I move to a new plan, which of course, is capped.  The offer is not a discounted rate but the regular rate, for a plan that will borderline meet my needs.  I&#039;m not posting this a a slam against the phone company but more as a Make sure you are getting what you need and not giving up something that you want in exchange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pol*:  I am always suspicious of the phone company calling to offer me a cheaper rate.  In my case they are also my ISP.   I&#8217;ve been with them for many years, so many that I still have uncapped usage on my account.  They frequently call and suggest that I move to a new plan, which of course, is capped.  The offer is not a discounted rate but the regular rate, for a plan that will borderline meet my needs.  I&#8217;m not posting this a a slam against the phone company but more as a Make sure you are getting what you need and not giving up something that you want in exchange.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Pol -- you pay the most interest when the sum of your loan is highest -- so yes, the early years are when making prepayments count the most. (think of it like if you put in an extra $1000 in year 2, then there&#039;s no interest on that $1000 in years 3 - 25 to be charged on). Instead of lump sum payments, you might consider raising the amount you pay each period instead.

your other question is larger -- do we pay off the mortgage first, invest, do a little of both, build emergency fund... unfortunately there&#039;s no one size fits all question. What you should do is look at your investments and your interest rates and see what makes sense the most to you mathematically and emotionally. For instance if you have a 5% mortgage and pay it down, you are in effect earning 8% return on your money versus keeping it in an RRSP account (due to money that&#039;s paid on mortgage interst is paid with after tax dollars).  But if you are confident that your investmetns can return 10% in after tax dollars in the same time frame, it may be better. But a lot of people sleep easier if their house is paid off cause you can&#039;t hide from the rain in a balance sheet. Pros and cons, pros and cons....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Pol &#8212; you pay the most interest when the sum of your loan is highest &#8212; so yes, the early years are when making prepayments count the most. (think of it like if you put in an extra $1000 in year 2, then there&#8217;s no interest on that $1000 in years 3 &#8211; 25 to be charged on). Instead of lump sum payments, you might consider raising the amount you pay each period instead.</p>
<p>your other question is larger &#8212; do we pay off the mortgage first, invest, do a little of both, build emergency fund&#8230; unfortunately there&#8217;s no one size fits all question. What you should do is look at your investments and your interest rates and see what makes sense the most to you mathematically and emotionally. For instance if you have a 5% mortgage and pay it down, you are in effect earning 8% return on your money versus keeping it in an RRSP account (due to money that&#8217;s paid on mortgage interst is paid with after tax dollars).  But if you are confident that your investmetns can return 10% in after tax dollars in the same time frame, it may be better. But a lot of people sleep easier if their house is paid off cause you can&#8217;t hide from the rain in a balance sheet. Pros and cons, pros and cons&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ioana</title>
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		<dc:creator>ioana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh forgot one - as part of the HELOC negotiations, I negotiated for us two years of NO BANKING FEES for each of our bank accounts :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh forgot one &#8211; as part of the HELOC negotiations, I negotiated for us two years of NO BANKING FEES for each of our bank accounts <img src='http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ioana</title>
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		<dc:creator>ioana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been doing this, starting this month. 

Moved our home phone to another provider - check! 
Got a home equity line of credit in case we lose our jobs - check (because it&#039;s easier to get credit now when we&#039;re not in trouble)
Reduced number of channels on TV - check!
Picked a cheaper cell phone plan for both of the adults of the house - check! 
Cooking every week - check! (and now the food is getting more palatable, woo hoo!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been doing this, starting this month. </p>
<p>Moved our home phone to another provider &#8211; check!<br />
Got a home equity line of credit in case we lose our jobs &#8211; check (because it&#8217;s easier to get credit now when we&#8217;re not in trouble)<br />
Reduced number of channels on TV &#8211; check!<br />
Picked a cheaper cell phone plan for both of the adults of the house &#8211; check!<br />
Cooking every week &#8211; check! (and now the food is getting more palatable, woo hoo!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pol*:
Is it necessary to give up the bank entirely?  Is it possible to use what suits you best from each FI?</description>
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Is it necessary to give up the bank entirely?  Is it possible to use what suits you best from each FI?</p>
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		<title>By: Pol*</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pol*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love what you have said here Gail!

People will drive miles to go to a sale where they will save a few bucks on miscellaneous crap, but reviewing an existing expense is just too much effort!

I am presently seeing if dropping our big-bank chequing account will be worth the hassle of moving all the pre-auth stuff (They don&#039;t offer any free accounts, and I think the rate they are charging is kind of ludicrous  and their customer service is very impersonal). We also have a credit union account that is really excellent and FREE with a $1000 balance. There are some services that the big bank offers that my CU can&#039;t so it&#039;s not as cut and dried as it would seem. I have really weigh whether I CAN realistically drop the big bank account, but at least my wonderful CU one isn&#039;t adding more expense.

My phone company actually CALLED ME to offer lower rates! They reviewed my usage and said I was paying too much. In 10 minutes my phone bill was cut in HALF (now it is even cheaper than the other guys for the features I actually want and a really cheap long distance rate). I almost fell off my chair at how accomodating they were.

Am I right in assuming all the benefits of working these techniques to save on the mortgage are most effective at the BEGINNING of the mortgage? When we bought ten years ago it was financially a low-income phase of our lives. Now that a decade of payments have gone by, we have put down a couple of lump sums when we could and still have about ten more years to go. The sheet says we are now paying more principle than interest now (FINALLY!).... so is it better to keep it going as it is and invest in other stuff more heavily like long term savings and emergency funds, or does it still make sense to accelerate our payments this late in the loan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love what you have said here Gail!</p>
<p>People will drive miles to go to a sale where they will save a few bucks on miscellaneous crap, but reviewing an existing expense is just too much effort!</p>
<p>I am presently seeing if dropping our big-bank chequing account will be worth the hassle of moving all the pre-auth stuff (They don&#8217;t offer any free accounts, and I think the rate they are charging is kind of ludicrous  and their customer service is very impersonal). We also have a credit union account that is really excellent and FREE with a $1000 balance. There are some services that the big bank offers that my CU can&#8217;t so it&#8217;s not as cut and dried as it would seem. I have really weigh whether I CAN realistically drop the big bank account, but at least my wonderful CU one isn&#8217;t adding more expense.</p>
<p>My phone company actually CALLED ME to offer lower rates! They reviewed my usage and said I was paying too much. In 10 minutes my phone bill was cut in HALF (now it is even cheaper than the other guys for the features I actually want and a really cheap long distance rate). I almost fell off my chair at how accomodating they were.</p>
<p>Am I right in assuming all the benefits of working these techniques to save on the mortgage are most effective at the BEGINNING of the mortgage? When we bought ten years ago it was financially a low-income phase of our lives. Now that a decade of payments have gone by, we have put down a couple of lump sums when we could and still have about ten more years to go. The sheet says we are now paying more principle than interest now (FINALLY!)&#8230;. so is it better to keep it going as it is and invest in other stuff more heavily like long term savings and emergency funds, or does it still make sense to accelerate our payments this late in the loan?</p>
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