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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem Jessie. I&#039;m glad I helped you out. 

If you are from Ontario (as i&#039;m licensed in Ontario only), i&#039;m more then happy to review what you been quoted. Just let me know how I can get ahold of you via e-mail.

If not, no worries. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours in purchasing your disability coverage!

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem Jessie. I&#8217;m glad I helped you out. </p>
<p>If you are from Ontario (as i&#8217;m licensed in Ontario only), i&#8217;m more then happy to review what you been quoted. Just let me know how I can get ahold of you via e-mail.</p>
<p>If not, no worries. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours in purchasing your disability coverage!</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: jessie</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/2713/comment-page-1#comment-61896</link>
		<dc:creator>jessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ken! that&#039;s what I was looking for - just a ballpark percentage to know if someone was quoting me something suspiciously low or high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ken! that&#8217;s what I was looking for &#8211; just a ballpark percentage to know if someone was quoting me something suspiciously low or high.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessie

There are many variables in pricing. So simliar to what you said &#039;it depends on what your house costs&quot;. Everything from occupation, health/medical history, income, Province, job stability, prior claims history (if applicable etc).

Generally speaking in Canada, particularily Ontario, you can pay 2-4% of your income towards this coverage. Some could go higher, if you have a &#039;fully loaded plan&#039;. 

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessie</p>
<p>There are many variables in pricing. So simliar to what you said &#8216;it depends on what your house costs&#8221;. Everything from occupation, health/medical history, income, Province, job stability, prior claims history (if applicable etc).</p>
<p>Generally speaking in Canada, particularily Ontario, you can pay 2-4% of your income towards this coverage. Some could go higher, if you have a &#8216;fully loaded plan&#8217;. </p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: jessie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what should a person under 30, in good health, with an office job, expect to pay for comprehensive disability coverage that isn&#039;t cancellable?  I see people here paying $40; I have a friend paying $200; I just got a quote for $139.  I know that&#039;s like saying &quot;what do houses cost?&quot; because the answer is &quot;it depends on what you buy&quot;, but I&#039;d love a Canadian perspective.  I read somewhere that you should expect to pay between 1-3% of your gross income on disability insurance when buying a fully loaded plan with the features described here - does that make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what should a person under 30, in good health, with an office job, expect to pay for comprehensive disability coverage that isn&#8217;t cancellable?  I see people here paying $40; I have a friend paying $200; I just got a quote for $139.  I know that&#8217;s like saying &#8220;what do houses cost?&#8221; because the answer is &#8220;it depends on what you buy&#8221;, but I&#8217;d love a Canadian perspective.  I read somewhere that you should expect to pay between 1-3% of your gross income on disability insurance when buying a fully loaded plan with the features described here &#8211; does that make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gail, 

Well written!! As an insurance agent I think everyone should read this article.. at times it can be challenging when I speak with clients (particularily younger ones under 30) and they say &#039;it won&#039;t happen to me&#039;. 

This article you wrote really hits the point home.. from a non-insurance company point of view.

My advice to people too is with disability insurance, READ your contract - if you do not understand, don&#039;t buy. Ask the agent for clarification. Ask 1,000 times until you understand your contract. 

Many types of contracts are out there - cancellable, guaranteed renewable and non-cancellable. The more &#039;flexible&#039; to the insurance company (ie. cancellabe), the cheaper it is. With disability insurance, you get what you pay for. 

Speak to an agent.. speak to two agents.. get well educated and do business with a reputable company, who has a reputable agent and don&#039;t focus on the price alone - as, there may be a catch to the contract feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gail, </p>
<p>Well written!! As an insurance agent I think everyone should read this article.. at times it can be challenging when I speak with clients (particularily younger ones under 30) and they say &#8216;it won&#8217;t happen to me&#8217;. </p>
<p>This article you wrote really hits the point home.. from a non-insurance company point of view.</p>
<p>My advice to people too is with disability insurance, READ your contract &#8211; if you do not understand, don&#8217;t buy. Ask the agent for clarification. Ask 1,000 times until you understand your contract. </p>
<p>Many types of contracts are out there &#8211; cancellable, guaranteed renewable and non-cancellable. The more &#8216;flexible&#8217; to the insurance company (ie. cancellabe), the cheaper it is. With disability insurance, you get what you pay for. </p>
<p>Speak to an agent.. speak to two agents.. get well educated and do business with a reputable company, who has a reputable agent and don&#8217;t focus on the price alone &#8211; as, there may be a catch to the contract feature.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 01:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment is regarding an issue with a disability provider .  I have been on  long term disability through work and found out through one of your articles (Globe &amp; Mail rather) that I should have collected payments called the &#039;Child Rearing &#039;provision and so CPP paid this as a lump sum pmt.this year. 
However, even though this should have been paid to me many years ago when raising my son
the insurance company claimed the money was owed to them because it was in the contract.
This seems so wrong considering it was owed to me so long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment is regarding an issue with a disability provider .  I have been on  long term disability through work and found out through one of your articles (Globe &amp; Mail rather) that I should have collected payments called the &#8216;Child Rearing &#8216;provision and so CPP paid this as a lump sum pmt.this year.<br />
However, even though this should have been paid to me many years ago when raising my son<br />
the insurance company claimed the money was owed to them because it was in the contract.<br />
This seems so wrong considering it was owed to me so long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Poncelet, CFP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Poncelet, CFP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One example I did for a client, is show him on my software (he is 47 years old). 

How, a disability could stop him contributioning to his RRSPs/TFSA/RESP even if this disability lasted two years, his group disability (which there is a major short fall in benefits) would cost him over $150,000 by the time he was 65.  This is because RRSPs etc. would have to be withdrawn.  His son&#039;s education...student loans etc.

By adding to his coverage (disability) and looking at getting a Critical illness coverage this shortfall would be reduced or even gone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One example I did for a client, is show him on my software (he is 47 years old). </p>
<p>How, a disability could stop him contributioning to his RRSPs/TFSA/RESP even if this disability lasted two years, his group disability (which there is a major short fall in benefits) would cost him over $150,000 by the time he was 65.  This is because RRSPs etc. would have to be withdrawn.  His son&#8217;s education&#8230;student loans etc.</p>
<p>By adding to his coverage (disability) and looking at getting a Critical illness coverage this shortfall would be reduced or even gone!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Poncelet, CFP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Poncelet, CFP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about this on Gail&#039;s Blog in Dec 2008.


http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/295

Here is some information from that blog.

Paying for the policy
Why should I pay for a policy when I can just contribute to my RRSPs or savings and hope that I will have enough money should I become disabled? Consider this: If you are forced to withdraw from your RRSPs you will have to pay taxes. A withdrawal of $5,000 could be as little as $2,600 in the end depending on your tax bracket. Additionally, if you are forced to withdraw during a bear market, such as we are currently experiencing, you will be forced to withdraw more units from your mutual funds and potentially at a loss. 

If you own an individual disability insurance policy paid from your cash, any claims payment come to you tax free once you have satisfied the waiting period or other contract requirements. This will apply even if you are currently unemployed.

In summary, disability insurance is only one element in the “Risk Management Strategy”. Is it worth spending less than 3% of your gross income to protect your greatest asset, the ability to earn a steady income? Other coverage’s to consider include Life insurance, Critical Illness insurance and Long Term Care insurance. 



New!... You can also, get up to 50% of all premiums refunded back to you every eight years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote about this on Gail&#8217;s Blog in Dec 2008.</p>
<p><a href="http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/295" rel="nofollow">http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/295</a></p>
<p>Here is some information from that blog.</p>
<p>Paying for the policy<br />
Why should I pay for a policy when I can just contribute to my RRSPs or savings and hope that I will have enough money should I become disabled? Consider this: If you are forced to withdraw from your RRSPs you will have to pay taxes. A withdrawal of $5,000 could be as little as $2,600 in the end depending on your tax bracket. Additionally, if you are forced to withdraw during a bear market, such as we are currently experiencing, you will be forced to withdraw more units from your mutual funds and potentially at a loss. </p>
<p>If you own an individual disability insurance policy paid from your cash, any claims payment come to you tax free once you have satisfied the waiting period or other contract requirements. This will apply even if you are currently unemployed.</p>
<p>In summary, disability insurance is only one element in the “Risk Management Strategy”. Is it worth spending less than 3% of your gross income to protect your greatest asset, the ability to earn a steady income? Other coverage’s to consider include Life insurance, Critical Illness insurance and Long Term Care insurance. </p>
<p>New!&#8230; You can also, get up to 50% of all premiums refunded back to you every eight years!</p>
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		<title>By: Derbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 06:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I developed severe ulcerative colitis when I was 25.  Thank God we have a good disability plan at work (and I wasn&#039;t diagnosed until after I started my career)!  I&#039;ve been on Long Term Disability 3 times now (I&#039;m 32), and have never been given a hard time (I have solid medical documentation).  Our benefit plan covers 55% of my income, but it&#039;s tax free, so it&#039;s not too far off of what I make at work. 

The hard part is, there&#039;s a 6 month wait period for each claim.  EI will cover 15 weeks for sick leave...at a low rate.  So it&#039;s 3 months with absolutely no money each LTD claim...and 3 months with a fraction of the money.  Plus, the farther into the work year I am when I go off on LTD, the less money I qualify for on it.  

These are all things I didn&#039;t have any clue about, and I can&#039;t qualify for short term disability insurance now.  I definitely recommend both Short and Long Term Disability insurance to anyone that can qualify.  We had 90 acres of mature timber on our property that we had to log to cover expenses during our LTD wait period.  Not everyone is so lucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I developed severe ulcerative colitis when I was 25.  Thank God we have a good disability plan at work (and I wasn&#8217;t diagnosed until after I started my career)!  I&#8217;ve been on Long Term Disability 3 times now (I&#8217;m 32), and have never been given a hard time (I have solid medical documentation).  Our benefit plan covers 55% of my income, but it&#8217;s tax free, so it&#8217;s not too far off of what I make at work. </p>
<p>The hard part is, there&#8217;s a 6 month wait period for each claim.  EI will cover 15 weeks for sick leave&#8230;at a low rate.  So it&#8217;s 3 months with absolutely no money each LTD claim&#8230;and 3 months with a fraction of the money.  Plus, the farther into the work year I am when I go off on LTD, the less money I qualify for on it.  </p>
<p>These are all things I didn&#8217;t have any clue about, and I can&#8217;t qualify for short term disability insurance now.  I definitely recommend both Short and Long Term Disability insurance to anyone that can qualify.  We had 90 acres of mature timber on our property that we had to log to cover expenses during our LTD wait period.  Not everyone is so lucky.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for the tips - especially about applying for EI early (no, we hadn&#039;t done it yet - I thought we had to wait for ST benefits to run out - I will look into this right away!), the trillium drug plan (although drugs aren&#039;t our biggest concern - therapeutic equipment is, for the moment - you never know when he&#039;ll suddenly need the $2000 / dose medicine) and the encouragement about the Disability Tax Credit. I have started the paperwork for it but I&#039;ve heard so many stories of people whose disability seemed so clear-cut, who were denied. I guess all I can do is make sure his docs are very clear, and then cross my fingers for a sympathetic reading at the CRA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for the tips &#8211; especially about applying for EI early (no, we hadn&#8217;t done it yet &#8211; I thought we had to wait for ST benefits to run out &#8211; I will look into this right away!), the trillium drug plan (although drugs aren&#8217;t our biggest concern &#8211; therapeutic equipment is, for the moment &#8211; you never know when he&#8217;ll suddenly need the $2000 / dose medicine) and the encouragement about the Disability Tax Credit. I have started the paperwork for it but I&#8217;ve heard so many stories of people whose disability seemed so clear-cut, who were denied. I guess all I can do is make sure his docs are very clear, and then cross my fingers for a sympathetic reading at the CRA.</p>
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		<title>By: Rita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have short term &amp; long term disability through my job, but I&#039;ve also carried my own personal disability plan since I was in my twenties.  I applied for it back then because it was more important than life insurance for me.  I had elderly parents on low income, and no spouse or kids and no coverage at my job then.  It scared me thinking what would happen if I was disabled.  

It&#039;s wise to get it when one is young and in good health.  If you wait too long and have some medical issues develop you may never qualify for it later.  My premiums went up as I aged.  I believe they used to be around $25 a month, now they are $85.  I have no regrets getting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have short term &amp; long term disability through my job, but I&#8217;ve also carried my own personal disability plan since I was in my twenties.  I applied for it back then because it was more important than life insurance for me.  I had elderly parents on low income, and no spouse or kids and no coverage at my job then.  It scared me thinking what would happen if I was disabled.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s wise to get it when one is young and in good health.  If you wait too long and have some medical issues develop you may never qualify for it later.  My premiums went up as I aged.  I believe they used to be around $25 a month, now they are $85.  I have no regrets getting it.</p>
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		<title>By: CheerfulMomma</title>
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		<dc:creator>CheerfulMomma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I are self-employed but purchased Disability insurance 10 years ago which has a 60 day elimination period. My husband developed a pinched nerve in his neck and is booked to have surgery in two weeks. He will be off work for 1 to 3 months. We will need to self-fund for up to three months as the insurance will begin paying retroactively at the end of the third month. We have an Emergency fund which will cover us. I am SO GLAD that we have been on a budget for almost two years; we would have been in a bad financial situation if this had happened before we got on top of our finances. The budget has made things SO much less stressful! Thank you, Gail for your TDDUP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I are self-employed but purchased Disability insurance 10 years ago which has a 60 day elimination period. My husband developed a pinched nerve in his neck and is booked to have surgery in two weeks. He will be off work for 1 to 3 months. We will need to self-fund for up to three months as the insurance will begin paying retroactively at the end of the third month. We have an Emergency fund which will cover us. I am SO GLAD that we have been on a budget for almost two years; we would have been in a bad financial situation if this had happened before we got on top of our finances. The budget has made things SO much less stressful! Thank you, Gail for your TDDUP!</p>
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		<title>By: Iryssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iryssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 05:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everyone who brought up the fully-funded emergency fund. If your disability lasts for 32 months, of course 6months of EF won&#039;t be enough to carry you that whole time, but it just might be enough to get your house sold (instead of foreclosed on!) or a better paying job for your partner (if you have one), and it will certainly buy you some time while you wait for your applicable benefits to kick in! So as always, common sense prevails. Be debt-free, have an emergency fund of 3-6mos of expenses (and aim higher! especially if you have a family!) and have enough of the right kinds of insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everyone who brought up the fully-funded emergency fund. If your disability lasts for 32 months, of course 6months of EF won&#8217;t be enough to carry you that whole time, but it just might be enough to get your house sold (instead of foreclosed on!) or a better paying job for your partner (if you have one), and it will certainly buy you some time while you wait for your applicable benefits to kick in! So as always, common sense prevails. Be debt-free, have an emergency fund of 3-6mos of expenses (and aim higher! especially if you have a family!) and have enough of the right kinds of insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn s, I hear you. Depression can hold you back from being who you really are.  PsychSarah, I reallyhope we don&#039;t become a bankruptcy statistic as you mentioned.  It is hard to live off the 400 a week if you have higher bills, but even harder if you were self employed and it is even less.  For the self employed out there, the insurance only give 80% of your net after deductions.  A caregiver ( unemployed) gets 300$ a week to help care for their family.

Everyone in Ontario should check their car insurance now, because to get that pathetic coverage it is actually a premium you have to pay...the basic is a lower amount of coverage for the same rate you were paying.  

I was 22 when I found out I had thyroid cancer with a 4 month old baby and 1 course left to graduate.  No one would give me insurance, not even when we bought our first home at 23.  The earlier the better!  If you haven&#039;t got sick, a disease or been in a terrible accident- plan for the worst so if something bad were to happen you are prepared financially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn s, I hear you. Depression can hold you back from being who you really are.  PsychSarah, I reallyhope we don&#8217;t become a bankruptcy statistic as you mentioned.  It is hard to live off the 400 a week if you have higher bills, but even harder if you were self employed and it is even less.  For the self employed out there, the insurance only give 80% of your net after deductions.  A caregiver ( unemployed) gets 300$ a week to help care for their family.</p>
<p>Everyone in Ontario should check their car insurance now, because to get that pathetic coverage it is actually a premium you have to pay&#8230;the basic is a lower amount of coverage for the same rate you were paying.  </p>
<p>I was 22 when I found out I had thyroid cancer with a 4 month old baby and 1 course left to graduate.  No one would give me insurance, not even when we bought our first home at 23.  The earlier the better!  If you haven&#8217;t got sick, a disease or been in a terrible accident- plan for the worst so if something bad were to happen you are prepared financially.</p>
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