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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/253/comment-page-1#comment-16267</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I luckily have parents who are preparing for retirement and have also set up trusts for my three chirldrens education (yippiee!!)
 On the other hand, my husband parents, his whole family infact are..pathetic...with money. My MIL has a fairly good job, and has been with the same company for 30+ years, we are truly hoping for a nice retirement package for her, I know she isn&#039;t saving otherwise . everyone but my husband lives at home still (3 sisters, all over 30!) Last year we had to bail them out with 5000 for their taxes and some bills, but we are a single income family as I am home with the three kids. We are already planning on buying them a house to live in rent free, which is fine, but why should we be helping out his 2 of three sisters (and husband and child) who are perfectly capable of working!? can I stipulate that it is rent free but only for mom and dad and my one sister in law who is severly handicap? kick out my sister in law and her husband and daughter and my other sister in law? how can I do this without causing to many hard feelings and being the bad guy when we are trying to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I luckily have parents who are preparing for retirement and have also set up trusts for my three chirldrens education (yippiee!!)<br />
 On the other hand, my husband parents, his whole family infact are..pathetic&#8230;with money. My MIL has a fairly good job, and has been with the same company for 30+ years, we are truly hoping for a nice retirement package for her, I know she isn&#8217;t saving otherwise . everyone but my husband lives at home still (3 sisters, all over 30!) Last year we had to bail them out with 5000 for their taxes and some bills, but we are a single income family as I am home with the three kids. We are already planning on buying them a house to live in rent free, which is fine, but why should we be helping out his 2 of three sisters (and husband and child) who are perfectly capable of working!? can I stipulate that it is rent free but only for mom and dad and my one sister in law who is severly handicap? kick out my sister in law and her husband and daughter and my other sister in law? how can I do this without causing to many hard feelings and being the bad guy when we are trying to help.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I envy most of you.  My parents are 60 with no savings, no house, lots of debt (don&#039;t know how much), and in total denial (God will provide! Riches waiting in heaven..).  Both have growing health problems, dad says he&#039;s going to work &#039;til he&#039;s 120, mom just quit her job because it was too stressful (hm, big surprise) and went on EI with no plans to work again. One bro (34) lives at home, other bro (33) has yet to put a penny in RRSPs, let alone saving for a house. Grandma is living alone in a 2nd-floor apt 4 hours away in desperate need of care. My first child is due in 2 months and after having attempted to discuss finances with them several times, I&#039;m ready to hire a financial advisor.  They still tithe (10% gross straight to the church) and think that the church will take care of them if they need help. Dad is self-employed, so no pension.

I have resolved that I need to save for the inevitability that they will require in-home care, or be in a retirement home.  I fully expect to hear, &quot;told you god would provide.&quot; Thanks mom and dad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I envy most of you.  My parents are 60 with no savings, no house, lots of debt (don&#8217;t know how much), and in total denial (God will provide! Riches waiting in heaven..).  Both have growing health problems, dad says he&#8217;s going to work &#8217;til he&#8217;s 120, mom just quit her job because it was too stressful (hm, big surprise) and went on EI with no plans to work again. One bro (34) lives at home, other bro (33) has yet to put a penny in RRSPs, let alone saving for a house. Grandma is living alone in a 2nd-floor apt 4 hours away in desperate need of care. My first child is due in 2 months and after having attempted to discuss finances with them several times, I&#8217;m ready to hire a financial advisor.  They still tithe (10% gross straight to the church) and think that the church will take care of them if they need help. Dad is self-employed, so no pension.</p>
<p>I have resolved that I need to save for the inevitability that they will require in-home care, or be in a retirement home.  I fully expect to hear, &#8220;told you god would provide.&#8221; Thanks mom and dad.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/253/comment-page-1#comment-4622</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, it&#039;s my grandmother (aside from myself, 24F) that I worry about.  She is in her late 70&#039;s and lives off of CPP and old age secrity and is widowed.  Due to some poor financial and personal decisions, she no longer owns her own home (my dad bought it when she was about to lose it to the bank); and retirement savings were not something I think were even considered when she was younger.  She has about $10,000 in savings.  She is *very* frugal with her money, and is not comfortable talking about; however my mom does all of her grocery shopping - and we know she doesn&#039;t eat well.  We wish she would *spend more* money on herself.

About a year ago, my mom found out that she hadn&#039;t done her taxes in over three years.  This meant that her old age security and farmacare benefits had stopped, not to mention she hadn&#039;t been receiving GST credits (about 90+/quarter).

I have now taken over all of her taxes and associated benefit programs to ensure that they are done and information stays up to date.  It was a trial, but after several one on one conversations, she understood that I just wanted to help make sure she had her benefits, she let me help.

I now have her receiving her pharmacare benefits (discount on prescription drugs), she received a back GST payment of $1014, and a small tax refudn of about $300.  Woohoo!!!  She also *should* be getting both CPP/OOS - but I will know for sure next month.  She doesn&#039;t have debt to pay off, but she was happy with the extra $$.  

oh - and I got her set up on direct deposit!! This has been great! No more cheques, or trips to the bank (I live in a different city).  She can see the $$ flow on her bank statements.

It&#039;s hard to help parents/grandparents - but if you go in with the right attitude you&#039;ll do fine.  At the end of the day, they are adults and get to make there own decisions (and that means deciding if they would like to take your help or not) whether you agree with it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, it&#8217;s my grandmother (aside from myself, 24F) that I worry about.  She is in her late 70&#8217;s and lives off of CPP and old age secrity and is widowed.  Due to some poor financial and personal decisions, she no longer owns her own home (my dad bought it when she was about to lose it to the bank); and retirement savings were not something I think were even considered when she was younger.  She has about $10,000 in savings.  She is *very* frugal with her money, and is not comfortable talking about; however my mom does all of her grocery shopping &#8211; and we know she doesn&#8217;t eat well.  We wish she would *spend more* money on herself.</p>
<p>About a year ago, my mom found out that she hadn&#8217;t done her taxes in over three years.  This meant that her old age security and farmacare benefits had stopped, not to mention she hadn&#8217;t been receiving GST credits (about 90+/quarter).</p>
<p>I have now taken over all of her taxes and associated benefit programs to ensure that they are done and information stays up to date.  It was a trial, but after several one on one conversations, she understood that I just wanted to help make sure she had her benefits, she let me help.</p>
<p>I now have her receiving her pharmacare benefits (discount on prescription drugs), she received a back GST payment of $1014, and a small tax refudn of about $300.  Woohoo!!!  She also *should* be getting both CPP/OOS &#8211; but I will know for sure next month.  She doesn&#8217;t have debt to pay off, but she was happy with the extra $$.  </p>
<p>oh &#8211; and I got her set up on direct deposit!! This has been great! No more cheques, or trips to the bank (I live in a different city).  She can see the $$ flow on her bank statements.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to help parents/grandparents &#8211; but if you go in with the right attitude you&#8217;ll do fine.  At the end of the day, they are adults and get to make there own decisions (and that means deciding if they would like to take your help or not) whether you agree with it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ajana</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/253/comment-page-1#comment-3147</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mountains of Worry, I understand your concern and telling your mother that purchasing something doesn&#039;t increase the chances of winning and that most major winners purchase nothing won&#039;t make any difference. It is terrible that these places target the vunerable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mountains of Worry, I understand your concern and telling your mother that purchasing something doesn&#8217;t increase the chances of winning and that most major winners purchase nothing won&#8217;t make any difference. It is terrible that these places target the vunerable.</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/253/comment-page-1#comment-3141</link>
		<dc:creator>Arlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m lucky that my parents have oodles of money,  they were born during the end of WWII in Europe so they were poor, and spent their life saving money.  My in-laws are another story...I&#039;m not sure how much debt they are in but bought their first house a few years ago (they are in their early 60&#039;s and only MIL working) so they have a mortgage plus its not uncommon for collection agencies to contact them.  We can&#039;t help them, we have our own mortgage and daycare to pay for for years to come and I don&#039;t know if my husband would want to help them.  I know this might not be the right thing to say but if my parents pass before the in-laws do (believe me I hope not!) I wouldn&#039;t want to give any of my inheritance..if there is any...to my in-laws to help them out, I would want to make sure my kids get a good education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m lucky that my parents have oodles of money,  they were born during the end of WWII in Europe so they were poor, and spent their life saving money.  My in-laws are another story&#8230;I&#8217;m not sure how much debt they are in but bought their first house a few years ago (they are in their early 60&#8217;s and only MIL working) so they have a mortgage plus its not uncommon for collection agencies to contact them.  We can&#8217;t help them, we have our own mortgage and daycare to pay for for years to come and I don&#8217;t know if my husband would want to help them.  I know this might not be the right thing to say but if my parents pass before the in-laws do (believe me I hope not!) I wouldn&#8217;t want to give any of my inheritance..if there is any&#8230;to my in-laws to help them out, I would want to make sure my kids get a good education.</p>
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		<title>By: Mountains of Worry</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/253/comment-page-1#comment-3143</link>
		<dc:creator>Mountains of Worry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading all these stories, I have a couple of problems which are a little different but they equally drive me crazy.

My mother who is 85 and has a decent amount of pension to live on, inherited a lot of money from her maiden sisters, maybe 15 years ago.  My mom has tried to spend all the money in her lifetime - even if it wasn&#039;t intentional.  Now I&#039;m talking about $100,000. which mom inherited.

In preparation for her inevitable death and as her power of attorney for property and health as well as future executor, I tried to locate her will last week -well what a surprise- I&#039;ve found that it was left in a draft state. So, I called for an appointment for finishing up her will, but wonder what else I need to worry about.

Now this is the problem.  My mother seems to have lot her senses.  She really thinks that buying little things from a company by the initials of P C H will really lead her to winning a fortune in their draws.  I&#039;ve read the materials and thought how stupid of you Mom.  It would be better to throw money away on the lotteries or on all of us  - $30- $80 a week, rather than to give it away to a company who likes to exploit old, frail and nearly demented women.  She really believes that every time there is a new draw and her name is somehow in that favoured list that she will be the winner.  I call it a scam as does my sister and brother.

Gail, do you have any advice for how to close down all the advertising which comes to my mom&#039;s door?

My sister and I have tried to talk with her and yes I&#039;ve really put on the role of ogre.  Why are you paying for all of this stuff?? Don&#039;t you see that you are being ripped off?  What a waste.  Look at all the junk which I&#039;ll have to throw out when you die.  You could have spent  whatever amount of money on something that mattered to you, etc.

My mom doesn&#039;t have life insurance -quite a surprise for me as my parents always had insurance.  So, with spending all of the money which was inherited and meant for her retirement upkeep, on these possible winning lotteries, she has put me into a difficult position to be able to clear her estate with anything left over - as was intended by my aunt.

My mom, thinks that all we want is her money and that she will spend it as she wishes - which is her right. Well, I was the executor for my aunt - her sister, and I know full well that my aunt would be rolling over a thousand times in her grave in the knowledge of how mom has used her savings. They were meant for enhancing her retirement with paying for care or necessary things to help her lead a good life up to the end.

What do you do with a woman who refuses to listen to reason?  I told her that I wasn&#039;t paying for her funeral.  I couldn&#039;t afford it.  Her reply was take the CPP payout and cremate me.  The plot is already paid for as my dad died 17 years ago.

You only hope that she will not continue to fall prey to these exploiters who send her fist fulls of lottery dreams - with a little purchase.  She does stop for a while after we get upset but then goes right back to it.

The real problem is how to help with P C H concerns and when to finally step in to take control of monetary situations.  Any help, Gail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading all these stories, I have a couple of problems which are a little different but they equally drive me crazy.</p>
<p>My mother who is 85 and has a decent amount of pension to live on, inherited a lot of money from her maiden sisters, maybe 15 years ago.  My mom has tried to spend all the money in her lifetime &#8211; even if it wasn&#8217;t intentional.  Now I&#8217;m talking about $100,000. which mom inherited.</p>
<p>In preparation for her inevitable death and as her power of attorney for property and health as well as future executor, I tried to locate her will last week -well what a surprise- I&#8217;ve found that it was left in a draft state. So, I called for an appointment for finishing up her will, but wonder what else I need to worry about.</p>
<p>Now this is the problem.  My mother seems to have lot her senses.  She really thinks that buying little things from a company by the initials of P C H will really lead her to winning a fortune in their draws.  I&#8217;ve read the materials and thought how stupid of you Mom.  It would be better to throw money away on the lotteries or on all of us  &#8211; $30- $80 a week, rather than to give it away to a company who likes to exploit old, frail and nearly demented women.  She really believes that every time there is a new draw and her name is somehow in that favoured list that she will be the winner.  I call it a scam as does my sister and brother.</p>
<p>Gail, do you have any advice for how to close down all the advertising which comes to my mom&#8217;s door?</p>
<p>My sister and I have tried to talk with her and yes I&#8217;ve really put on the role of ogre.  Why are you paying for all of this stuff?? Don&#8217;t you see that you are being ripped off?  What a waste.  Look at all the junk which I&#8217;ll have to throw out when you die.  You could have spent  whatever amount of money on something that mattered to you, etc.</p>
<p>My mom doesn&#8217;t have life insurance -quite a surprise for me as my parents always had insurance.  So, with spending all of the money which was inherited and meant for her retirement upkeep, on these possible winning lotteries, she has put me into a difficult position to be able to clear her estate with anything left over &#8211; as was intended by my aunt.</p>
<p>My mom, thinks that all we want is her money and that she will spend it as she wishes &#8211; which is her right. Well, I was the executor for my aunt &#8211; her sister, and I know full well that my aunt would be rolling over a thousand times in her grave in the knowledge of how mom has used her savings. They were meant for enhancing her retirement with paying for care or necessary things to help her lead a good life up to the end.</p>
<p>What do you do with a woman who refuses to listen to reason?  I told her that I wasn&#8217;t paying for her funeral.  I couldn&#8217;t afford it.  Her reply was take the CPP payout and cremate me.  The plot is already paid for as my dad died 17 years ago.</p>
<p>You only hope that she will not continue to fall prey to these exploiters who send her fist fulls of lottery dreams &#8211; with a little purchase.  She does stop for a while after we get upset but then goes right back to it.</p>
<p>The real problem is how to help with P C H concerns and when to finally step in to take control of monetary situations.  Any help, Gail?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cassie, don&#039;t worry, your parents&#039; debt won&#039;t be your debt as long as you haven&#039;t co-signed with or for them. If you aren&#039;t on paper, you aren&#039;t on the hook. g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cassie, don&#8217;t worry, your parents&#8217; debt won&#8217;t be your debt as long as you haven&#8217;t co-signed with or for them. If you aren&#8217;t on paper, you aren&#8217;t on the hook. g</p>
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		<title>By: cassie</title>
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		<dc:creator>cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my parents are terrible with their money. :( i have tried to help them with budgets and such but they just dont seem to want my help. i feel so helpless because i do not need their debt once they pass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my parents are terrible with their money. <img src='http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  i have tried to help them with budgets and such but they just dont seem to want my help. i feel so helpless because i do not need their debt once they pass!</p>
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		<title>By: Celena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luckily, we won&#039;t have to face this dilemma!  My father has told me that he&#039;s going to off himself when he&#039;s too old to take care of himself (charming, I know) my mother is MIA, and when she does return to the picture (which she seems to do every 3-4 years) there&#039;s no way we&#039;ll be helping her out.  My husband&#039;s father is doing fine for himself, with a union job with good benefits including (most likely) a retirement fund, and my husband&#039;s mother has sort of let it be known that we&#039;re not her favourite, therefore, one of the other 5 siblings can help her out!

So, I count myself lucky!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luckily, we won&#8217;t have to face this dilemma!  My father has told me that he&#8217;s going to off himself when he&#8217;s too old to take care of himself (charming, I know) my mother is MIA, and when she does return to the picture (which she seems to do every 3-4 years) there&#8217;s no way we&#8217;ll be helping her out.  My husband&#8217;s father is doing fine for himself, with a union job with good benefits including (most likely) a retirement fund, and my husband&#8217;s mother has sort of let it be known that we&#8217;re not her favourite, therefore, one of the other 5 siblings can help her out!</p>
<p>So, I count myself lucky!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a timely blog!  This issue has been on my mind for some time now and at this point I feel as helpless about it as I think my parents do.  I am unable to talk about money with my mother at all and never have been.  It is a topic that creates a defensiveness in her that I have never seen around any other topic. She has never worked outside the home and her behaviour indicates that she has no understanding of how things work financially but I don&#039;t entirely believe that she is that naive.  My father and I have have chatted on several occassions and I have as respectfully as possible brought up my concern that they are 65, have no savings, still have a large mortgage on their house from refinancing and spend without planning, saving or really thinking at times.  I am one of four siblings and we have also discussed that they will not be able to count on any of us for help- one sister lives in another country, my brother still lives at home and is trying to get it together so he can start a life, my other sister is working to keep her home together as her husband has been laid off for the past year and I am helping my husband get through university and also live far from them.  I acknowledge that they are adults and it is their money to do with as they wish.  I know that finances have caused years of stress and sleeplessness nights for them but they seem to have completely given up long ago and accepted this as their lot in life.  They respectfully decline to talk about options and see money as a very private personal matter that should not be discussed or shared with others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a timely blog!  This issue has been on my mind for some time now and at this point I feel as helpless about it as I think my parents do.  I am unable to talk about money with my mother at all and never have been.  It is a topic that creates a defensiveness in her that I have never seen around any other topic. She has never worked outside the home and her behaviour indicates that she has no understanding of how things work financially but I don&#8217;t entirely believe that she is that naive.  My father and I have have chatted on several occassions and I have as respectfully as possible brought up my concern that they are 65, have no savings, still have a large mortgage on their house from refinancing and spend without planning, saving or really thinking at times.  I am one of four siblings and we have also discussed that they will not be able to count on any of us for help- one sister lives in another country, my brother still lives at home and is trying to get it together so he can start a life, my other sister is working to keep her home together as her husband has been laid off for the past year and I am helping my husband get through university and also live far from them.  I acknowledge that they are adults and it is their money to do with as they wish.  I know that finances have caused years of stress and sleeplessness nights for them but they seem to have completely given up long ago and accepted this as their lot in life.  They respectfully decline to talk about options and see money as a very private personal matter that should not be discussed or shared with others.</p>
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		<title>By: brandi</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like some of the other people commenting, my mom is very responsible having grown up in poverty, saves and still works at 67 full time, but my inlaws are totally in debt. They go on holidays and spend money they don&#039;t have and say but thats what credit cards are for and god will provide. I want to scream! I mean its great to have a belief in god but really do you think that even though you are acting irresponsibly god will somehow bail you out? My husband and I just keep our mouth shut since all the other &quot;children&quot; in the family are just as irresponsible at his parents (apple doesn&#039;t fall far from the tree) and maintain our frugal lifestyle while they all drive &quot;awesome&quot; leased vehicle, rent gorgeous huge homes and claim bankruptcy about every 8-10 years while we have a single vehicle and shop at thrift stores. They don&#039;t ask us for money because they think we are broke ha ha, meanwhile we laugh to ourselves and shake our heads at their advice to us. What else can we do but see the humour!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like some of the other people commenting, my mom is very responsible having grown up in poverty, saves and still works at 67 full time, but my inlaws are totally in debt. They go on holidays and spend money they don&#8217;t have and say but thats what credit cards are for and god will provide. I want to scream! I mean its great to have a belief in god but really do you think that even though you are acting irresponsibly god will somehow bail you out? My husband and I just keep our mouth shut since all the other &#8220;children&#8221; in the family are just as irresponsible at his parents (apple doesn&#8217;t fall far from the tree) and maintain our frugal lifestyle while they all drive &#8220;awesome&#8221; leased vehicle, rent gorgeous huge homes and claim bankruptcy about every 8-10 years while we have a single vehicle and shop at thrift stores. They don&#8217;t ask us for money because they think we are broke ha ha, meanwhile we laugh to ourselves and shake our heads at their advice to us. What else can we do but see the humour!</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents are a mess an still spending on useless things.  They have no savings, debt up the yin-yang and still adding to the credit cards every month &quot;because they have no choice&quot;.  It makes me sick with worry.  Now my father is physically incapable of working anymore and they&#039;re on a very tiny disability pension.

My biggest stress right now is that I can&#039;t afford to help them out should this house of cards fall apart.  I&#039;m still trying to get myself on track.  Thanks to Gail&#039;s Blogs, my finances are getting better and better... but I still can&#039;t take on any extra debt or financial burden... especially considering my student loans.  This article really hit home.  I wish someone had an answer, but I don&#039;t think there really is one.  I can&#039;t force my parents to stop spending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents are a mess an still spending on useless things.  They have no savings, debt up the yin-yang and still adding to the credit cards every month &#8220;because they have no choice&#8221;.  It makes me sick with worry.  Now my father is physically incapable of working anymore and they&#8217;re on a very tiny disability pension.</p>
<p>My biggest stress right now is that I can&#8217;t afford to help them out should this house of cards fall apart.  I&#8217;m still trying to get myself on track.  Thanks to Gail&#8217;s Blogs, my finances are getting better and better&#8230; but I still can&#8217;t take on any extra debt or financial burden&#8230; especially considering my student loans.  This article really hit home.  I wish someone had an answer, but I don&#8217;t think there really is one.  I can&#8217;t force my parents to stop spending.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so relieved to see that you brought this topic up Gail! I admit it infuriates me to keep reading about financially irresponsible &quot;children&quot; who keep turning to their parents to bail them out - it&#039;s a much covered area in the media. Every time I read an article I always think &quot;where are all the stories and advice about the irresponsible parents?&quot;.

My in-laws and my Dad are financial disasters. My husband and I live in his parents basement as they can&#039;t pay the mortgage, credit cards etc without the money that we pay them every month. At the time we moved in, it was in response to his Mother&#039;s confession that she couldn&#039;t pay the bills as his Father had stopped work due a cancer diagnosis. In truth, as we later found out, that they hadn&#039;t been doing well financially for quite some time. And 2 years later (with his Father in good stead for over 18 months) they seem to think that our current living arrangement is a perfectly acceptable situation and don&#039;t understand that we&#039;d rather be spending that money on our own mortgage. They say they&#039;ll leave my husband the house when they die and regard us unreasonable when we point out that may be 20+ years. 20 years living in someone else&#039;s home with all of their stuff, in a part of town that we wouldn&#039;t choose etc. His Mother cries at how &quot;unfair&quot; we are or how terrible her life is every time we try to discuss things and his Father is an absolute stork, he just claims it&#039;ll all be fine and walks off. And my Dad is no better! We do love them and they are lovely people but there seems to be no way out except to continue making all the compromises and hope for the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so relieved to see that you brought this topic up Gail! I admit it infuriates me to keep reading about financially irresponsible &#8220;children&#8221; who keep turning to their parents to bail them out &#8211; it&#8217;s a much covered area in the media. Every time I read an article I always think &#8220;where are all the stories and advice about the irresponsible parents?&#8221;.</p>
<p>My in-laws and my Dad are financial disasters. My husband and I live in his parents basement as they can&#8217;t pay the mortgage, credit cards etc without the money that we pay them every month. At the time we moved in, it was in response to his Mother&#8217;s confession that she couldn&#8217;t pay the bills as his Father had stopped work due a cancer diagnosis. In truth, as we later found out, that they hadn&#8217;t been doing well financially for quite some time. And 2 years later (with his Father in good stead for over 18 months) they seem to think that our current living arrangement is a perfectly acceptable situation and don&#8217;t understand that we&#8217;d rather be spending that money on our own mortgage. They say they&#8217;ll leave my husband the house when they die and regard us unreasonable when we point out that may be 20+ years. 20 years living in someone else&#8217;s home with all of their stuff, in a part of town that we wouldn&#8217;t choose etc. His Mother cries at how &#8220;unfair&#8221; we are or how terrible her life is every time we try to discuss things and his Father is an absolute stork, he just claims it&#8217;ll all be fine and walks off. And my Dad is no better! We do love them and they are lovely people but there seems to be no way out except to continue making all the compromises and hope for the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eeeek! Even though this is a matter of the heart you really have to think with your head. If you bail someone out, they&#039;re not learning anything and they&#039;ll continue what they&#039;ve done. What&#039;s worse, if you bail someone out and they&#039;re helping bailing out another..! Bad cycle.
Best of luck to everyone in all the above dilemmas. Remember your own future first before you&#039;re in too deep with someone else&#039;s. The parents might be pulling at your heart strings..but one day you might end in that same boat if you&#039;re not cautious with your own money now.
Good luck, all! : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eeeek! Even though this is a matter of the heart you really have to think with your head. If you bail someone out, they&#8217;re not learning anything and they&#8217;ll continue what they&#8217;ve done. What&#8217;s worse, if you bail someone out and they&#8217;re helping bailing out another..! Bad cycle.<br />
Best of luck to everyone in all the above dilemmas. Remember your own future first before you&#8217;re in too deep with someone else&#8217;s. The parents might be pulling at your heart strings..but one day you might end in that same boat if you&#8217;re not cautious with your own money now.<br />
Good luck, all! : )</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Geoff idea!
Either sit down and budget with them or pay them the financial planner!
I like giving people tools instead of bailouts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Geoff idea!<br />
Either sit down and budget with them or pay them the financial planner!<br />
I like giving people tools instead of bailouts.</p>
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