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		<title>By: Canadian Personal Finance Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Random Thoughts: Flip, Flop and Flu</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/1136/comment-page-1#comment-19066</link>
		<dc:creator>Canadian Personal Finance Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Random Thoughts: Flip, Flop and Flu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vaz-Oxlade takes on a sticky issue in Making a Complaint about loans made to folks who should not be given [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jasmin</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/1136/comment-page-1#comment-19051</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s one of the saddest stories I&#039;ve ever read.The poor woman to have to struggle through that.
My thoughts are with you and I hope your situation gets resolved in a positive manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s one of the saddest stories I&#8217;ve ever read.The poor woman to have to struggle through that.<br />
My thoughts are with you and I hope your situation gets resolved in a positive manner.</p>
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		<title>By: sparky</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/1136/comment-page-1#comment-19042</link>
		<dc:creator>sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if all the info was accurate in the letter it sounds like a dealership...banks don&#039;t stamp &quot;house&quot; across a contract...and he was ineligible for the life insurance due to his age...again, the dealership may be funded through a bank but I don&#039;t think the actual transaction took place inside a bank...and yes there is a difference....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if all the info was accurate in the letter it sounds like a dealership&#8230;banks don&#8217;t stamp &#8220;house&#8221; across a contract&#8230;and he was ineligible for the life insurance due to his age&#8230;again, the dealership may be funded through a bank but I don&#8217;t think the actual transaction took place inside a bank&#8230;and yes there is a difference&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Making A Complaint « gailvazoxlade.com -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/1136/comment-page-1#comment-19012</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Making A Complaint « gailvazoxlade.com -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Catchsuccess09 and TWT TRICK CARS, TRICKOUT CARS. TRICKOUT CARS said: Making A Complaint « gailvazoxlade.com: My father has FLD and the spending, lack of insight of the consequences.. http://bit.ly/3rViqW [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Catchsuccess09 and TWT TRICK CARS, TRICKOUT CARS. TRICKOUT CARS said: Making A Complaint « gailvazoxlade.com: My father has FLD and the spending, lack of insight of the consequences.. <a href="http://bit.ly/3rViqW" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3rViqW</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chubby Bunny</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/1136/comment-page-1#comment-19008</link>
		<dc:creator>Chubby Bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well then the BANK should definately be held responsible.  Unfortunately, I would suspect that because the husband has not been actually diagnosed with ANYTHING (even though it&#039;s suspected that he has problems), the contract is probably a valid one.  Without a diagnosis, I doubt that she can just charge into the bank and demand that HIS loan be retracted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well then the BANK should definately be held responsible.  Unfortunately, I would suspect that because the husband has not been actually diagnosed with ANYTHING (even though it&#8217;s suspected that he has problems), the contract is probably a valid one.  Without a diagnosis, I doubt that she can just charge into the bank and demand that HIS loan be retracted.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny how everyone jumped on the idea that it was a dealership. It wasn&#039;t. It was a bank. Hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how everyone jumped on the idea that it was a dealership. It wasn&#8217;t. It was a bank. Hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: WB</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/1136/comment-page-1#comment-19003</link>
		<dc:creator>WB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very sad. 
Great advice Gail, it&#039;s difficult not to have a strong emotional reaction to this experience.
Sounds like this person has been responsible for their spouse in many ways for a long time. 

What really stands out for me is despite the stress that this must be causing there is a mention (twice!) of keeping the husbands credit rating intact  &quot;its a shame to ruin his credit..&quot;.

I think it&#039;s a shame to have one person carrying this burden which was not even their doing.
Best of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very sad.<br />
Great advice Gail, it&#8217;s difficult not to have a strong emotional reaction to this experience.<br />
Sounds like this person has been responsible for their spouse in many ways for a long time. </p>
<p>What really stands out for me is despite the stress that this must be causing there is a mention (twice!) of keeping the husbands credit rating intact  &#8220;its a shame to ruin his credit..&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a shame to have one person carrying this burden which was not even their doing.<br />
Best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Chubby Bunny</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/1136/comment-page-1#comment-19002</link>
		<dc:creator>Chubby Bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am shocked.  Absolutely shocked, at this situation.  Another example of incredible greed on the part of the dealership.  I don&#039;t even understand how he managed to get the financing.  I pray this gets solved quickly.  

Please post an update as the situation unfolds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am shocked.  Absolutely shocked, at this situation.  Another example of incredible greed on the part of the dealership.  I don&#8217;t even understand how he managed to get the financing.  I pray this gets solved quickly.  </p>
<p>Please post an update as the situation unfolds.</p>
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		<title>By: *pol</title>
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		<dc:creator>*pol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a terrible situation. I hope your advice, Gail, is taken and the resolution is adequate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a terrible situation. I hope your advice, Gail, is taken and the resolution is adequate!</p>
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		<title>By: Are you Getting Divorced Because of Bankruptcy ? &#124; Getting a Divorce</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/1136/comment-page-1#comment-19000</link>
		<dc:creator>Are you Getting Divorced Because of Bankruptcy ? &#124; Getting a Divorce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: winkwink</title>
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		<dc:creator>winkwink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope he has some sort of mental disorder... not that I wish that for their family (or any family), but because it would be a better explanation than betrayal on that scale. To leave your family without the ability to buy groceries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope he has some sort of mental disorder&#8230; not that I wish that for their family (or any family), but because it would be a better explanation than betrayal on that scale. To leave your family without the ability to buy groceries?</p>
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		<title>By: KT</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me very much of a situation that happened with my sister in the late 1980&#039;s... she was sold a car at a very inflated rate by the mom of one of her friends (who was a car salesperson). My sister was only 18, unemployed, and didn&#039;t even have a driver&#039;s license. My father was tricked or coerced into co-signing for the car, it ended up reposessed as she had no income, and it hurt both her &amp; my father in the credit rating department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me very much of a situation that happened with my sister in the late 1980&#8217;s&#8230; she was sold a car at a very inflated rate by the mom of one of her friends (who was a car salesperson). My sister was only 18, unemployed, and didn&#8217;t even have a driver&#8217;s license. My father was tricked or coerced into co-signing for the car, it ended up reposessed as she had no income, and it hurt both her &amp; my father in the credit rating department.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he has dementia/alzheimers then he is likely incompetent to make financial decisions and then the car purchase agreement is invalid. Go see a lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he has dementia/alzheimers then he is likely incompetent to make financial decisions and then the car purchase agreement is invalid. Go see a lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
		<link>http://gailvazoxlade.com/blog/archives/1136/comment-page-1#comment-18993</link>
		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds like a dealership....also, usually you can&#039;t get insurance after age69</description>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 for Joanne. It&#039;s a misconception that married people are responsible for each other&#039;s debts, unless they signed for it. HOWEVER, that doesn&#039;t mean that joint assets can&#039;t be allocated 100% to pay for these debts. So in other words, Mrs. is not responsible for Mr&#039;s debt, but that doesn&#039;t mean the bank can&#039;t take the house that&#039;s in both their names to pay for Mr&#039;s debt.

So get the house put in your name, Mrs. Many people who have a spouse who run a business do this, because creditors can only go after assets the undersigned have a stake in. (Ie just because my dad can&#039;t pay his debts doesn&#039;t mean that my wife and I lose our home unless I guaranteed his debt). It may cost a few thousand, it may cost you land transfer tax + legal fees, but sleep at night knowing your house is yours and is never going away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 for Joanne. It&#8217;s a misconception that married people are responsible for each other&#8217;s debts, unless they signed for it. HOWEVER, that doesn&#8217;t mean that joint assets can&#8217;t be allocated 100% to pay for these debts. So in other words, Mrs. is not responsible for Mr&#8217;s debt, but that doesn&#8217;t mean the bank can&#8217;t take the house that&#8217;s in both their names to pay for Mr&#8217;s debt.</p>
<p>So get the house put in your name, Mrs. Many people who have a spouse who run a business do this, because creditors can only go after assets the undersigned have a stake in. (Ie just because my dad can&#8217;t pay his debts doesn&#8217;t mean that my wife and I lose our home unless I guaranteed his debt). It may cost a few thousand, it may cost you land transfer tax + legal fees, but sleep at night knowing your house is yours and is never going away.</p>
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